for years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.
with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.
i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.
If your marriage is this shitty after just 3 months (if i read that right) then i'd have a very serious think about NOT having any sex with her at all until you know which way you are going with this, as said already do not let her play the pregnancy card on you!
If your parents are out and the marriage is toast you may as well just get it over with and make a fresh start with lessons learned....
several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.
fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.
a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.
The chances that faux pas was deliberate are right up near 100% and that just shows the character of some elders. as I was reading your account i pictured one particular elder from my old hall as he was exactly the type to pull that type of shit and did do on several occasions. Yes he would have been one with prurient interest and a huge ego to match it. The kind of man he is can be summed up in the fact he was lining up his next wife while his current one was dying of terminal cancer and married her 3 months after the funeral.
Ass hole.
I wouldnt want to be an elder in Barry right now and to think I very nearly moved there 10 years ago while in and who knows my path may well have been radically different and my name may even have been on the list of trustees by now.
several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.
fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.
a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.
No apologies needed, have at it Joe, you know your stuff and this has pissed you right royally off.
It's time for these amateurs and their kangaroo courts to be exposed for the abuse they deliver.
it is reported that one elderly sister in british columbia expressed complete disgust at what she considered an obscene act in the bethel 'happy song'.
now everything is, of course, subject to perspective.
i would imagine her perspective is just as valuable as anyone elses.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
i'm curious.
what do you know from your own experience and talking to other active jws?
i know from my own informal, non-scientific survey that most jws do not watch jw.tv.
I asked my brother via email his take on jw broadcasting and then suggested he should watch it (with an LOL).
He replied that yes he has seen some of them and finds the experiences very encouraging.
well, once again my "friend" has shared their notes with me from the latest co visit.
besides the usual 1914 assertions/ world getting worse all the time/ our day is the worst of all time nonsense, the co mentioned some interesting things.
number one won't surprise you.
Billy nailed it.
i been researching information on why the the conquest of canaan could not be a real historical account.
i found this on barts blog:.
when considering the historicity of the narratives of joshua, the first thing to re-emphasize is that these are not accounts written by eyewitnesses or by anyone who knew an eyewitness.
omg...what a waste of a day.....my wife is in full cult mode.
we had one chair seperating us in the bleachers.
we did not talk on the way to and on the way from.
Why go?
"It's a crappy stupid cult and i'm not going anymore" will suffice.
